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Hello Dear Writer, whoever you are, and thank you. Via Substack chat I saw a message from 'you' i.e. "Recognizably Jewish". I thus came to "Semite, Hebrew, Israelite, Jew". That is always an interesting topic i.e. the transformation of the identifying name of the Jewish People.

What I read was interesting in its short form and then I saw the extended part. When I read the short section on "Israelite" a question arose. As Joan River's entrance line declared: "Can we talk"? Can we?

My first reaction to the "Israelite" section was: 'is the writer anti-Jewish or just antisemitic'. But I paused and sought to find out who wrote this, or who is this Mr. Recognizably Jewish and what makes him tick. I found in another writing of yours " my particular variety of love and respect for Judaism and Jewishness."

Do you write about that in those terms?

I'll pause here to say that my disturbance is not your fault whoever you are.

I was simply over reacting. To the jump in Time from Jacob's dream or nightmarish battle with what some say was his brother Esau's spirit.

Some say the avenger was an angel as in a messenger of God aka H'Shem.

Shem as in the word for 'name' but not Shem as in a son of Noah for whom the word 'semite' was created.

Nor was it a misspelling of one of the Howard Brothers of The Three Stooges i.e. the brother nicknamed "Shemp".

None the less, is there a reason, that you do a time warp dance from - the second or alternative name given by the 'angel' for Jacob to sometimes be called Israel - to about 3400 years later (in Torah Time); when the name Israel was proposed for the new State, in English 'The State of Israel'?

Is there or are there no mentions of Israel in the Torah as the name of a People or a region for example? Is there a reason for your jump?

Are there other mentions in the gap when 'Israel' is mentioned as a People or a region? Mentioned in the Torah or other Jewish writings preceding the flash announcement as Israel - The State in '48? Are there other such mentions and if so was there a reason to 'cancel' them as the new saying goes?

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